Do you think Katas (Karate) really develops the reflects, speed, skills of real fighting?

Do you think Katas (Karate) really develops the reflects, speed, skills of real fighting? No matter what kind of style we are talking about.

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5 Responses to Do you think Katas (Karate) really develops the reflects, speed, skills of real fighting?

  1. J says:

    sort of of but just doing them won’t really imporve it all together if you spar a lot and do full contact with some katas sure but if its just katas then no

  2. Tarek says:

    yes they do but u should be doing push ups more often to inc speed and ur arm power out put

  3. pugpaws2 says:

    Yes, and No. Kata (needs no ‘s’ on it to indicate more than one Kata) teaches you moves, the transition from one move to another along with many other physical skills. But even though someone could master a Kata, that is not all the skills needed to really defend yourself. In English or any language you must know the basics. You master spelling, reading , and writing before you can make sentences, paragraphs,….etc. If your study of Kata is only what is seen, then you miss the most important part which is like the jump from spelling words to making correct paragraphs. Kata also teaches real self-defense. But it is hidden intentionally by the creators of the Kata. It was hard to practice the most advanced techniques in secret. So Kata was a way to both allow you to practice anywhere, while still concealing the real meat of how it should be used. If a student proved to be not worthy of trust he might never be taught the hidden applications. In earlier times it was common for a master to reserve the hidden applications for years before revealing them. Even today it is still difficult to find instructors that know the real applications in their Kata. Thus 99.99% of the people that have studied or watched Karate believe that what they see is all there is. Based on that they think that Karate is outdated and simply does not work. but that is exactly what Kata os supposed to do, Keep the real good stuff hidden while allowing people to see or practice the movements. what people misunderstand is that if someone was able to learn the hidden applications, they would likely not be able to use them well. That is because practicing the Kata and perfecting the moves gives you the basics like the A, B, C’s.
    Even in my case the real applications were not taught to me until I had studied for nearly 20 years. now with more than 45 years of serious training I’m still learning more about what is hidden in the Kata I practice. Although I’m older (58), small and weaker than I once was, my self-defense skills are the best ever. So to me it was worth all the hard work and training to get to this point. Yet, I’m excited because I know that there is more to learn about the hidden applications.

  4. Jim R says:

    I agree with pugpaws2, there is much to the kata. It develops many things that translate directly to effective fighting skills. No matter what style we are talking about. I have been at it over 40 years, and still gain further insights from the most basic kata, and of course more advanced forms as well.

  5. idai says:

    Hi there

    There’s a big myth that constant repetition creates instinctive responses. This however is not the case and is one of the great miss understandings of many martial arts practitioners. Why would any movement that is robotic and un-natural create a natural response? Think about it your trying to reprogramme years of evolution in making your body move in an unrealistic way. This is the problem with repetitiveness training. It will never train the reflexes. Your responses, your way of moving are down to you and how you train what you are taught. Kata and technique are there to teach you techniques that you have to extract and incorporate into your own way of moving. A good Karateka understands exactly what kata is and how it should be realistically trained and where and when to use it. A bad karateka will be stuck in forms for 20 years thinking that perfecting robotic movement makes there karate and kata better. Sadly it doesnt!

    Understanding the principles of movement are what makes a great martial artist. The style is not important. However constant variation of the same techniques with variation of both uke and tori is what creates a natural response

    Best wishes

    idai

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